CBD for muscle spasms?
has anyone had any success with CBD for muscle pain and spasm and twitches? If so, what dosage and brand? Is it vape, edible, or sublingual?
I have tried vaping, I think it was 15 mg, but did not notice any true effects, so I am worried that I did not either have the right dosage or did not buy the right brand, etc.
Thank you for reading and hope to find some help.
Beginning of the discussion – 4/22/19
CBD for muscle spasms? https://www.carenity.us/forum/dystonia/treatments-for-focal-dystonia/cbd-for-muscle-spasms-902
I have tried CBD for my cervical dystonia. It was difficult for me to tell if it was working fully, but I began to feel less pain in my neck and shoulders. However I stopped because it became too expensive and I would order higher quality CBD or what I thought was higher quality CBD but couldn’t discern a difference. One I began using kratom I stopped using CBD.
@Armor2 O my gosh, you use Kratom? Wow, that is so good to hear. I have not heard of anyone else using it. It helps me with the pain. but not so much the tremors or spasms, but certainly helps for the pain. What type of Kratom strain do you use that helps? I use a blend of Green Malay, Red Bali, and White Maeng Da.
So you feel Kratom helped more than CBD for the pain just not as much as Kratom, but as for as the spams, CBD did not help?
Definitely kratom is far superior, and I was starting to use more and more CBD oil maybe because of tolerance. I use a red Indo with white Borneo. Red attacks the pain quite well.
CBD did nothing for the spasms and I am trying to find a solution for that.
Hi. yesyesyes Kratom, Red Strain for pain/spasms. Ashwaghanda , Kava, excellent for anxiety, relaxation . yes guys
Cbd does help , Some folks might take , time to bind to receptors, Yes has to be good. Quality oil. And at least . 50 mg a day . for our sacked up systems
Also Highly suggests medical cannabis. I use a the/cbd combined . And I also vape thc oil. I am sleeping better than I have in years. , since vaping high mg .cannabis vape. Crazy , man crazy
Hi! I have used CBD oil ( Inuse KOI- 1000mg- a half to a full dropper a day depending on my pain level) for over a year for my spasms and they basically have stopped. I still sometimes get them if I’m trying to turn my head the left and go against my dystonia. Please be careful with the kratom- I had considered it until reading into it more. Just isn’t for me, but I’m glad it is working for those taking it 🙂 My neurologist wanted to put me on klonopin and Valium for my spasms but I’m so thankful I was introduced to CBD oil instead..
Agree, I believe as kratom users for chronic pain we take extra care to use it wisely. You have have made me reconsider CBD oil and vape as well.
@Foxyfoxm why do you say to be careful with Kratom? Any side-effects that I have read are really no that bad. I would love to hear more. @Armor2
Did you notice immediate results with CBD? I took it for 2 weeks – super expensive and used the KOI brand you mentioned but had no effects. Maybe it was my dosage?
CBD for Dystonia
Life coach, author, and speaker Tom Seaman describes dystonia as feeling, “like someone constantly had a power drill in my skull, neck, shoulders, and back, and a rope tied around my head yanking it towards my right shoulder.” At least, that’s what Seaman says it’s like on a bad day.
More than 250,000 people in the United States have dystonia, making it the third most common movement disorder behind essential tremors and Parkinson’s disease. Today, let’s delve into the topic of using CBD for dystonia.
CBD for dystonia at a glance
- What the claimsare: CBD can help relieve the symptoms of dystonia, such as muscle spasms and pain. CBD can also address complications of dystonia, such as anxiety and depression.
- What the studies show:Research shows that CBD may be able to help manage pain as well as anxiety, depression, and muscle spasticity. Early research also demonstrates that CBD can act as a neuroprotector, potentially slowing the progression of degenerative conditions that result in dystonia, such as Parkinson’s disease. That said, there haven’t been a large number of trials done on CBD specifically for dystonia.
- What the facts say: Until comprehensive clinical trials on CBD for dystonia are done, we have to rely on early data and anecdotes to determine its value. In the meantime, there are early indicators that positively suggest CBD as a treatment for dystonia has great potential.
What exactly is Dystonia?
Dystonia is a movement disorder that causes muscles to contract involuntarily, resulting in repetitive, twisting motions. Dystonia can affect a single part of the body, as is the case in “focal dystonia,” whereas “segmental dystonia” can affect two adjacent parts of the body, such as the arm and hand. Lastly, there is “general dystonia,” which affects all parts of the body.
The severity of muscle spasms due to this disorder can vary wildly, ranging from mild to extremely severe. Oftentimes, they can be painful, and hamper a person’s ability to complete day-to-day tasks.
The cause of dystonia isn’t known, but we do know that some forms of dystonia are inherited.
Dystonia also can be a symptom of another condition or disease, such as Parkinson’s, Huntington’s disease, as well as due to poison, illness, injury at birth, or a traumatic brain injury.
Currently, there is no known cure for dystonia, but medications can help to improve symptoms. In certain cases, surgery to disable or regulate nerves or certain brain regions can be an option for people with extremely severe dystonia.
Symptoms of dystonia vary from person to person, but often:
- Begin in one region. Focal dystonia that begins after age 21 tends to start in the neck, arm, or face and then remain focal or segmental.
- Occur during a specific activity, like when handwriting.
- Worsen with anxiety, stress, or fatigue.
- Become more severe as time passes.
Dystonia can affect many areas of the body, including the neck, which can cause contractions that force the head to twist to one side, forward, or backward, which can cause discomfort and even pain. Other areas that can potentially be affected are the eyelids (which can result in rapid blinking and spasms), the jaw or tongue (which can cause slurred speech, drooling, or difficulty chewing and swallowing), the vocal cords and voice box, the hands, and the forearms.
How can CBD be used for dystonia?
CBD for dystonia can be used in a number of ways. Some people use it strictly for its relaxing properties. Dystonia symptoms can worsen due to anxiety, lack of sleep, and fatigue. Because CBD is known to help with those issues, some people find it can decrease the severity of their symptoms in that way.
Others might find that CBD for dystonia can help with their pain as well as any depression related to this disorder. That said, while some people are finding relief from dystonia symptoms, others cite no change or improvement in their muscular symptoms.
Are there any potential downsides of using CBD for dystonia?
CBD is generally well-tolerated, and doesn’t typically cause side effects. Those that do present themselves are minor and include tiredness, change in appetite, or diarrhea. Because many of the medications used to treat the symptoms of dystonia can come with other, more serious side effects, CBD for dystonia might be a viable option to add to your arsenal.
One thing we also like to note is that not all CBD products are the same. Make sure that you read the labels and do some research on the different offerings from various companies before you make any purchases to ensure you’re getting quality ingredients. You can find a great collection of reviews here at CBDbreaker.com, as well research-enriched profiles on CBD Companies.
It’s also important to use the product as directed and give it some time. That said, no matter how diligent you are about the quality of the product you purchase, CBD might not alleviate or improve your symptoms.
As for major risks or downsides, according to a recent study by the World Health Organization, CBD is not associated with abuse potential and appears to be non-habit forming.
Is CBD for dystonia the right choice for me?
Based on our research, CBD seems like it can address many of the symptoms of dystonia. It also appears as if it can address a number of underlying conditions and complications that come along with this disorder.
In short, CBD for dystonia could be an excellent option for some. That said, there have been very few studies on the subject to date, and more are needed to determine exactly how much CBD can help. As always, please make sure you consult with your primary care physician before making changes to your healthcare routine.
Medical Cannabis Promising for Dystonia Improvement in Pediatric Motor Disorders
In children with a complex motor disorder, cannabidiol (CBD)-enriched formulations comprised of CBD:d-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) ratio of 20:1 and a CBD:THC ratio of 6:1 improves dystonia and other quality of life (QOL) indicators, according to a small pilot study published in the Journal of Child Neurology.
Children with a complex motor disorder, characterized by a combination of movement and posture abnormalities (eg, spasticity and dystonia), were enrolled (n=25). In this patient population, the investigators compared the efficacy of 2 CBD-enriched 5% oil formulations for improving dystonia and spasticity, sleep, mood, constipation, and appetite. Participants received either a CBD:THC formulation of a 20:1 or 6:1 ratio, representing a minimal amount and higher amount of THC, respectively. The findings are reported from the intention-to-treat analysis.
In the 6:1 group, the maximal doses of CBD and THC were 90 mg/d and 14.85 mg/d, respectively, whereas maximal respective doses of CBD and THC were 210 mg/d and 10.50 mg/d in the 20:1 group.
Improvements on the Cerebral Palsy Child questionnaire for QOL were seen in both groups by the end of the 5-month study. In the 20:1 group, both dystonia and QOL improved with an average THC dosage of 3.67+3.61 mg/day, 0.28+0.24 mg/kg/day and mean cannabidiol dosage of 91.75+69.11 mg/day, 5.53+4.85 mg/kg/day. Improvements in QOL in the 6:1 group occurred under an average THC dosage of 6.27+7.20 mg/day, 0.61+0.69 mg/kg/day, and cannabidiol dosages of 38+43.67 mg/day and 3.73+4.18 mg/kg/day.
Improvements in mood (P <.018), constipation (P <.021), sleep (P <.002), and appetite (P <.027) also improved at 5 months in both groups, based on findings on a numeric rating scale. Somnolence was reported in 1 patient in the 6:1 group at a CBD and THC dose of 18 mg/d (1.8 mg/kg/d) and 2.97 mg/d (0.3 mg/kg/d), respectively. Alertness was improved following dose reduction, with the lower dose resulting in successful maintenance of the patient.
Slow titration time as well as the relatively small sample size represent the primary limitations of the analysis.
Further research studies with “concurrent, non-cannabis-treated controls are needed to more comprehensively assess the efficacy of medical cannabis in children with complex motor disorder,” the researchers concluded.
Libzon S, Schleider LB, Saban N, et al. Medical cannabis for pediatric moderate to severe complex motor disorders [published online January 1, 2018]. J Child Neurol. doi:10.1177/0883073818773028