is 100w too much for cbd oil

Is 100w too much for cbd oil

Hey guys. I just had a thought and wondered if anyone can give me some answers. Basically, I’ve never vaped oil or wax (is it the same thing?) because I don’t live in a place where it’s very available. However, I’m pretty sure CBD oil is easy to obtain since it’s legal where I live. After reading countless posts on various websites saying FF2 is the one of the best portable vapes for concentrates, I’d really like to give it a try once I receive my FF2. And since I don’t have access to typical concentrates, I’m thinking of trying it with CBD oil (or "hemp oil" as some people are calling it).

Has anyone had any experience with this? Can it actually be done (is it the same consistency as regular concentrates so that it would work well with the FF2 concentrate pad)? If it’s possible I think I’d really like to try it. I mean, I know it won’t get me high since the THC content will be below .2 percent or something but there must me some sort of effect. Does it make you more relaxed or is there any sort of body sensation or anything? How is the flavor? If nothing else, I think I’d like to experience the denser vapor. That, and I’m curious about the medical benefits of it. Look forward to hearing what you all think!

HI, just to add to Sue’s excellent response, while I don’t have an FF2, I am familiar with concentrate pads of the type used and frankly I would not put thin ‘oil’ on one in a $350 vape primarily designed for dry herb (that being the most challenging use case to design for).

I agree with Sue, if your dispensary has pre-loaded CBD cartridges for e-juice type pens, I would try that before squirting that stuff in my nice new vape. An O-pen or something like it. You really, really don’t want oil to drip down into your bowl and through it to the heating element/inside of housing IMO.

This is my opinion only. really, just my view. but concentrates are easy to heat up and vaporize. They are basically somewhat volatile substances. No big trick or tech needed. I personally don’t see the need for a high end herb vape to use concentrates when almost any old pen-type concentrate rig is cheap and easy to use (Galaxy, Lynx, Dr. Dabber, etc). Now, even these will balk from thin oil. I’m with Sue on this, if wanted to try, then get some sort of e-juice rig. But personally, I don’t see buying an FF2 just for concentrates. Others may disagree strongly.

As to differences between oil, wax, shatter, etc. you may find this article informative and easy reading.

Yes I have one and while I haven’t used it in a few it does work very well for the price.

Just load a small amount and go. I would only load a one hit size. As its the type that you need to each te button. A lot of folks are using things like the Kiln and Divine Tribe stuff which is also good.

Thanks for your input guys! Baron23 I know what you mean about people buying the FF2 to use primarily for concentrates. Personally, I’ve always been a fan of enjoying things in the most natural form possible (less processed), whether it’s fresh fruit & vegetable or cannabis. This is why I’ve never been drawn to the idea of concentrates. However, I’ve been noticing more and more CBD products lately that look identical to the oil/wax that people are vaping with their FF2. They are branded as "CBD oil" or "hemp oil" and appear to be a thick gooey like substance — not a thin oil like you described above. I would never try to use a thin oil in my FF2 or similar expensive vape. But the thick substances that looks more a solid form of honey or maple syrup look like they would work perfectly in the FF2 or similar vape. Rest assured I will be using my FF2 primarily for dry herbs, but if I have the option of vaping CBD concentrates in it I will definitely give it a try. Here is a link to one of the products I’m talking about:

From this site, bold and underline added by me.

Hemp Remedies ReLeaf CBD Dabs – 24%
This is a very beautifully, rich CBD Wax for those who love to dab!

So, its wax, not oil as most will think thin with oil and semi-solid to solid with wax. Again, if you haven’t had a chance to read the link I posted above, I think it does a pretty good job of provide a primer on the taxonomy of various concentrates available today.

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Again, I don’t have a FF2, but I do know a number of folks who love their FF2 with wax/shatter. Our own @ Flipz being among them. Perhaps he will chime in.

Yes on the DT atomizers! (Y)

I have an Eleaf 100W TC with Matt’s ceramic atomizers and love it a lot. They are not immune to having concentrates migrate down through the 510 connection if loaded too much or not cleaned at all but I found I could drip it out and reclaim what was in there and clean it up from time to time without issue. So far, my DT atomizers have proved to be very rugged.

I also have an Atmos Kiln, but its identical to the DT. My vague understanding is that Matt and DT led the way but he’s an open source kind of guy and so others are re-branding the 2.5. This may be urban legend as I have no direct knowledge of the back story.

I also have a DT 2.7 but have not used it yet.

I personally agree with you 100%, while I have pens and like their sleek elegance and stealth, its hard to beat the versatility of a good mod and atomizer for both performance and price. Here is a nice rig from DT for an affordable and competitive price:
http://ineedhemp.com/product/divine-tribe-version-2-5-atomizer-w-eleaf-40w-temperature-control-battery/

I don’t know if the Eleaf 40W has user replaceable batteries but my 100W TC does and insofar as all Li ion batteries die and go to battery heaven at some point, this is a great design feature to me.
http://www.eleafworld.com/istick-tc100w-firmware-upgradable/

Like others said before me, the FF2 is excellent with wax type concentrates using a liquid pad. Regarding thin oil though, I highly DO NOT recommend using anything like that as it’ll most likely seep all the way down into the heating chamber/element causing issues.

I don’t have access to thin oil myself but my friend does and was sorry they attempted it. Aside from not getting great vapor with oil (believe figuring out right heat setting was part of the issue) the vaporizer didn’t break. but said it was a pain in the "you know what" to clean out after.

I think a pen made for oil cartridges or thin oil specifically would be best. Don’t want to see you possibly damage the Firefly 2 if deciding to get.

If we were talking about regular wax concentrates than I’d say it works absolutely amazing! 😎

The Effect Of UV Light On Plants (Black Lights For Weed?)

And just like us they require nutrients and the right conditions to flourish. While plants obviously need water to survive, light is their main source of energy.

The natural light we enjoy here on earth comes from the sun, a blazing mass of fire that produces enough energy to maintain all life forms on this planet. The light from the sun is composed of packets of energy called photons; it is this energy that plants utilize to make their food supply.

The light from the sun is made up of varying wavelengths. Plants use most of this spectrum, some colors far more than others, but they do not make use of ultraviolet and infrared light.

Does this mean that UV light has no effect whatsoever on plants?

Quite the opposite. Varying levels of UV light bring about distinct characteristics in crops. Unfortunately, most of them are negative.

First we will cover the effects of UV light on plants in general and then we will cover the effect of UV on cannabis specifically.

How Does UV Light Affect Plants?

Before we get into the effects of UV light on plants, let’s briefly talk about what exactly is meant by ultraviolet light.

What Is UV Light?

Ultraviolet light is invisible to the naked eye and is the shortest wavelength in the spectrum, lying between 100 to 400 nm (nano meters). Before UV light reaches the earth’s surface, most of it is absorbed by the stratosphere.

The earth’s atmosphere is well-adapted to absorb all UV-C radiation, but UV-A and UV-B light still reaches the earth’s surface. Luckily, this light is not too harmful at the levels that reach us.

It is UV-R light that is most damaging to life forms. Thankfully, only 7-9% of it is able to reach the biosphere.

For this reason, under normal conditions, UV light does not have a substantial impact on plant growth. The exact effects of UV light have been evaluated under laboratory conditions, however.

Impact of UV Light on Microbes

Microscopic organisms such as bacteria play an important role in a plant’s life, both good and bad. Some bacteria, such as the ones that cause wilt and rust, may induce diseases in plants. Others, such as the nitrogen-fixing bacteria, may play a vital role in growth and in repairing damage.

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Ultraviolet light is detrimental to these microbes and may result in their death. Many scientists have tried using UV light to kill pathogens.

The problem is always the same: while ultraviolet light kills off germs, it also destroys beneficial and symbiotic microbes that play an active role in the healthy growth of a plant.

When UV light kills of these organisms, it causes changes in the composition of materials that the plant needs to make its food supply. For example, ultraviolet light can cause retardation in plants, if it kills of nitrogen-fixing bacteria, because it reduces the amount of usable nitrogen.

Ultraviolet Light Causes DNA Damage

It has been widely documented, that UV-R light is highly damaging to life forms, especially their DNA, lipids and proteins. When DNA is damaged, genetic material retards and either results in mutation or cell apoptosis, where the cell engulfs itself to protect itself from damage.

DNA damage, however, may not always be a negative; mutations in plants are the evolutionary forces that lead to greater diversity and often stronger organisms more suited to surviving.

For example, plants are able to make use of blue light and UV-A to push toward controlled apoptosis. This ensures that nutrients are not wasted and organs that have grown old are eliminated so new organs can be formed.

UV Light Leads to UV-Resistant Crops

With the world heading toward a possible climatic crisis, many researchers have started worrying about the impact of UV light on crops. Considering how thin the ozone layer has become, it is highly likely that in the near future, more DNA-damaging UV radiation will make it through the atmosphere down to the earth’s surface.

This does not necessarily have to be bad news, though. In controlled laboratory experiments, researchers found that crops that were exposed to more UV light actually started producing molecules to block it.

This means that these crops are able to survive in harsher climates and drier regions. Moreover, the plants then used ultraviolet light to their advantage to curb mold and other diseases that were festering in the soil.

This new research might be critical in the future as global warming raises temperatures, the ozone layer is further depleted and more light penetrates down to the earth’s surface.

And, not only did plants become more resistant to harmful light and microbes in those experiments, they also changed their shapes: they became shorter and thicker, which helps reduce water loss.

While UV light is generally harmful to plants, it can still be used to bring about positive effects. A final such effect comes in the growing of cannabis.

UV Light For Growing Marijuana

Ultraviolet light causes the production of resin, and with it THC and CBD, in order to protect the marijuana plant from harmful UV rays. Thus, adding UV light to LED grow lights results in an increase in THC in the resulting buds.

There is no question that at its core, UV light is harmful to plants. But in harming plants, it actually causes them to develop protective mechanisms that make them stronger going forward.

With weed, this results in an increase in THC and CBD. For this reason, feeding your marijuana plants low levels of supplemental UV light will actually help them and generally result in better crops, as is the case with cannabis.

Do Plants Need UV Light?

No, plants do not need UV light. It actually causes them harm. But in causing harm, it forces plants to protect themselves, which can result in a positive for our needs.

Cannabis is the best example. UV light forces it to create more resin to protect itself, which means higher THC and CBD levels. For that reason, many marijuana growers look to add UV light to the final few weeks of the grow, when it has the most effect on the final product.

But what is the best way to give your plants ultraviolet light?

How To Provide UVA/UVB Lights For Plants

A lot of LED grow lights have UV diodes these days, but they only have UV-A light. That’s because UV-B LED diodes are incredibly expensive and are only included on very high priced fixtures.

There is a prevalent belief that only UV-B light is beneficial to THC and CBD production, but this is based on a poorly run study that did not, in fact, prove this. Black Dog LED did their own research and found that UV-A light also increases production of THC and CBD.

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For that reason, any LED grow light that has UV diodes will work just fine to give your plants some UV light.

Nevertheless, I know some people will insist their plants need UV-B light. But using LEDs is not the way to do it.

UVB LED Grow Light: Is It Worth It?

Short answer: no.

As mentioned above, UVB diodes are extremely costly.

Fixtures that do include UVB light do so by attaching a UVB fluorescent bulb to their fixture. They are, in essence, an LED grow light with an additional UVB bulb.

And you pay for this addition. There are only two of these lights on the market: the Amare Solar Eclipse 500, which costs $1075 and the California Lightworks SolarSystem 1100 with UVB, which costs $1799.

Personally, I find this a bit gimmicky and it is never worth the increased cost.

Then there is the Cirrus UVB bar. It is the only fixture that uses actual UVB diodes. And it uses only those diodes. It is a pure UVB LED grow light, meaning it functions as supplemental lighting only.

The problem is: it costs $499. For a supplemental light!

Honestly, the benefits from adding UV-B light are not worth paying several hundred (let alone over $1000) dollars.

The only way adding UVB makes financial sense is to get a regular T5 fluorescent fixture and put a T5 fluorescent UVB bulb in it.

These bulbs cost only a little more than a standard fluorescent bulb and they also emit UV-A light, in addition to UV-B.

Here is a good option in two different sizes (these are just the bulbs; you can get any standard T5 fluorescent fixture like this one for them).

How Does Black Light Affect Plant Growth?

Many people ask me about black lights and reptile lights. They want to know if those can be used to supply UV light to their plants.

Black lights emit UV-A light only, so they affect plants the same way any other source of UV-A light does (which was covered above). They are a fairly weak source, however.

Below are answers to the most common questions I get.

Can Plants Grow Under Black Light?

No, most plants can not grow under a black light, if the black light is the only light source. If other light is present, they can grow under the black light, assuming it is not too strong or close to the plants. The black light itself does not do anything to help growth, though.

Do Black Lights Help Plants Grow?

Black lights do not help plants grow. They can help out in the ways described above, as in boosting production of THC and CBD in cannabis, but they do not aid growth at all.

Black Light For Growing Weed?

While a black light will, as mentioned, boost THC and CBD production, it will not grow weed on its own. You can use one as supplemental lighting, but your cannabis plant will not grow without an actual grow light or sunlight.

Do I Need A Black Light In My Grow Room?

No, you do not need a black light in your grow room. If you are growing marijuana, the addition of UV light can boost THC and CBD production, but it is not necessary for plants. If you do add ultraviolet light, it would be better to use a grow bulb like the AgroMax bulbs linked to above, since those emit both UVA and UVB light.

To boost the production of THC and CBD, you would only add ultraviolet light during a specific part of the grow cycle (see next question).

Should I Use A Black Light During Flowering?

If you are adding a black light to your grow for the purposes of boosting the production of CBD and THC, then you’ll want to use that light only during the final few weeks of the flowering stage of growth.

Will Reptile Lights Work For Plants

Reptile lights will work in the same way that black lights or other ultraviolet light will work. They will not help the plant grow, but will activate their defense mechanisms. This leads to, for example, the production of trichomes in marijuana.

The main difference between reptile lights and black lights is that most reptile lights emit UV-B light (there are also UVA reptile lights, but reptiles need UVB more), while black lights emit UV-A light.

Now it’s your turn. Do you have any additional questions concerning ultraviolet light for plants, or specifically for marijuana? If so, please ask them in the comments below and I will be happy to add them to this article.